Just a head’s up: I changed a few panels of the power point and I think I’m going to reblog it soon.

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This made me feel hopeful that actual change was happening behind the scenes, but…

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…This really sounds like they think What Pumpkin doesn’t care. :(image

Okay, so I looked up Banksy, and he is indeed one person and not a group of people under one name. And when people mentioned Blek le Rat, I thought they were talking about that one image of the rat, and not another pop-art graffiti artist.

There seems to be a controversy on whether Banksy is copying Blek le Rat’s style/his technique of stenciling/political edge. But not for ripping off any specific art piece. Though I can understand if the rat one comes too close for some people.

I have two examples of Banksy’s work on that power point, I can change out the rat piece for one of the examples I left out.

While I’m doing that, should I also edit the all-text panel to mention business ethics, so that point will be more clear?

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A lot of people on Reddit are commenting on your post. What are your thoughts on their rebuttals?

It’s pretty similar to some of the comments I’ve been getting here on tumblr. (but with a bit more snootiness)

Like they keep arguing whether or not the contest counts as art theft.

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That was never the point.(Maybe I should have made my power point more clear.) It’s about how Hot Topic is on one end of the trusted business spectrum and What Pumpkin is one the other. And What Pumpkin’s business is practically constructed entirely of artists and whose major demographic is also artists. What Pumpkin is so pro-artist artist-based that making a deal with Hot Topic like this is not only morally questionable, but inappropriate as hell. Especially since the situation directly involves the fan artists making the merchandise.

That was the point.

 

i just glanced at the contest page and it looks like the people at welovefine aren't really... giving a shit. just "thanks for your concern!" repeated ad nauseum and one "hmmm..." in response to one of the comments. :| i'm really put off by that. this needs to be known.


I think it’s more of a way to acknowledge all those responses in that short amount of time. If they’re going to think about it, it would be something they discuss with the people in charge. I don’t think they have the authority to discuss any actions taken on the comments page.

 

Hey I saw your post about Hot Topic stealing fan art and I wanted to tell you that while there is many legitimate cases of Hot Topic stealing art, the art "stolen" from Banksy is not one of them. Banksy is a notorious art thief and that is well-known to any graffiti artist. He steals art from lesser-known artists and gets all the credit for it because he is already famous. For example, the rats that he does, one of which is in your post, is stolen from an artist called Blek Le Rat.


Man, I don’t know. I keep hearing different things on the origin, and different extreme opinions on Banksy. Should I do a proper back check on that specific piece and edit the power point so it can be credited correctly? The way people are talking about Banksy, it almost sounds like it’s actually multiple anonymous people rather than a single person, but I’d have to look it up in the morning to confirm.

Hot Topic still tried to cash in on the design, so I think that’s valid enough for the mention. If not, I can edit in one of the spare examples I forgot to use earlier. Tomorrow I’ll handle it.

kookerus-speaks:

you need to source a claim this big, @figsnstripes

You need to read the description, kookerus-speaks.

loadsamomo replied to your post: *realises I forgot to source one thing…

thank u for gathering all that information and making it so clearly organized, it must have been a lot of work.

I had the links on standby for months, and I took excerpts from my previous post/letters I tried to send to What Pumpkin for the description. I really should have had this done over a month ago, but complications happened like my computer becoming inaccessible, and then being stupidly sick the week after I fix it.

I started the power point today, and it took me all day. But really it feels like I’ve shown up really late with it. I wasn’t really sure how coherent it turned out, so thanks for that feedback!

*realises I forgot to source one thing* *quickly goes back to add it*

Reading the tags on that post’s reblogs and like

Wow, you guys are even more enraged than I am!

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*sniff* I’m so proud…

Link to Homestuck Design Contest Page

E-Mail What Pumpkin Link

What Pumpkin on twitter

Sources: [x] [x] [x] [x] [x] [x] [x] [x] Edit: Changed Panels 2 7 & 9

Edit 2: I am surprised to see that there are even people reblogging this who, themselves or someone they know, have had similar issues with Hot Topic.

Hot Topic is known amongst artist groups as one of the worst offenders of art theft in U.S. retailers. I know artists are important to What Pumpkin, and I’d imagine multiple cases of art theft would be a very big deal. The most well-known of the cases were stolen fan art from independent artists, which is the same demographic the Design Contest was aimed to.  I’m an artist myself and I wouldn’t want to support a store that steals from my peers.

The people running Hot Topic have zero respect to artists and to copyright law. They’ve been ripping-off independent artists’ storefronts, and continue do so. The whole company really should have been shut down long ago.

If you support artists, independent, fan artist, or any kind, you should oppose Hot Topic and MSPA’s association with them!

Tell What Pumpkin to kick Hot Topic out of the Design contest RIGHT NOW.

We have so little time left to stop this please tell them that it is completely unacceptable to do any sort of business with petty art thieves.

Even if you don’t know what to say, or if you think it would compromise the contestants; It won’t. Just please voice your thoughts in anyway you can put them. Don’t let Hot Topic get a dime out of Homestuck.